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In a live radio station "Echo of Moscow" Alexander Gradsky

Leading ether Sergey Buntman

According www.echo.msk.ru materials by November 12, 2000

In a live radio station 'Echo of Moscow' Alexander Gradsky

- Alexander, good afternoon!

- Hello!

- I would like to ask a question immediately, which I do not understand why now gnaws at our country, a musical-poetic question. I know that you spoke about this and suggested ... Do you understand me, yes?

-! Still

- This is a question with the anthem of Russia. What is so attached to it? What should be the anthem of Russia?

- Yes, the game kind of game, your game.

- Why is our?

- You all play together. Well, you're playing on the same field, all media. What child would not play - if only took over.

- Good. But if our game, well, you know, together uncles are adults ...

- No, well, I just wrote a version of the anthem. I have a clear position - I wrote a version of the hymn to the music of Lviv certainly.

- "God Save the Tsar".

- Well, of course, but as yet another? 5-6 If the main state symbols: the flag, coat of arms, coat of arms of the main city, the military flag, and 4 symbols of the main 5 are already in use - the tri-color flag is used, St. Andrew's flag is used, use double-headed eagle, the emblem of Moscow - George-Victorious on a red background is used and which may have questions which can be a hymn? I once said that if you are, here, wonderful music Alexandrov, Mikhalkov, there El-Registan - all wonderful. But if, you know - claw stuck, the whole bird abyss. One has only to take the anthem Aleksandrova question tale - and the banner of what should be? Then, the flag should be red, the coat of arms - with ears, and there is the hammer and sickle, and drove off. In general, nothing wrong with that, by the way, but then you have to decide on it, and to declare all.

- Ie need logic, you need to go to the end?

- Well, of course. No, but the logic is simple. I wrote the lyrics and sang. In general, in my opinion, it's not bad, but not like some of the guys here, a direct appeal to God. As much as we like the country unofficially ceased to be religious like, although a lot of people believe, and I among them, but like as would all the way to a religion. Well, I'll write another version of the text, without the reference to God, but with some poems that were, and considered this option. I know that it is considered - one of the few that are considered as prospects for Russia's national anthem. Although I have nothing complicated and terrible not seen to leave Glinka's music, which is now. Music, in my opinion, excellent.

- But you say, that you - a musician, singer ...

- What everyone is saying that you can not sing?

- You can not sing, that we do not understand. That I can not, I'm not gonna get.

- Come on. Do you know why you can not sing? Firstly, there is no one to sing - it is necessary to be able to, this is the first. Just everything is so much that (is non-transferable imitation of modern singing with the lack of diction and music), all forgotten how to sing all that it is. It is necessary to open his mouth, to make the "A-ah-ah" - that song is this, and not here these here fingers there like that and that's it - hey you, come, we are with you, tra-la-la - this is completely different. Therefore, the answer is: you can write calmly poetry and the music of Glinka, and completely free it is sung. But the most interesting not even that is. The most interesting thing is that all are edified and imposed. And the anthem Aleksandrova, for example, everyone loves not because it's good music, but simply because for many years it was the people at the hearing. In the morning, at 6 am, 24 hours, at all meetings, at all concerts all this was done, in a solemn ceremony at a sporting event. People used for many decades to the fact that here it is - the anthem of their country. There is nothing surprising.

- I do not understand, and that it is that it is easy to sing?

- It is impossible to sing a layperson. Moreover, he never sang. Always 2 twisted tape, you know, so to speak, that would be broken if the film ...

- Yes, yes, the spare was.

- That is, no one has ever sung. No one ever knew the words, but the first 2-3 lines, because, well, it's complicated. After all, "God Save the Tsar", because look how interesting, because there is 75-80 years, no hearing, nor spirit was not from this hymn, but he still remained, he knows everything and we all remember, that's interesting!

- As soon as heard in the movie or play, in the old notes ... read

- Yes, and still remember everything. You know, the kind thing, well, there is a complex, I would say - ethical question. All accustomed to the fact that "God Save the Tsar." Well, let's choose a king, why be sure to call him president ?! We chose the Mikhail Romanov once?

-. In the year 613

- and chooses the Polish kings, and, sorry, one dynasty replaced another. There is a difference between the word and the concept of "king" and the word and concept of "Monarch". Those. Monarch - this is a dynastic thing, ie, monarch inherits one another, and the monarchy as such - it is a monarchy. And the king - it's just the head.

- Ie it is not necessarily hereditary?

- The King - is not necessarily the monarch, the king could be elected. Monarch can not be elected, the monarch became king on the basis of the monarchical, hereditary. So if we come up with, that we elected the emperor or, so to speak, the representative of the people, which has the highest power, well, call him king and sing "God Save the Tsar!" But obviously we still God moved in time, and quite far away and killed God in the form of icons, and in the form, I would say, the moral principle in every human being - someone is left, and someone there.

- Well, the English, whether they're atheists, and sing "God Save the Queen", and sing myself, and nothing happens to them.

- Not in this case. I always get confused here when - when I was quite clear: well, that's why when the tricolor flag of St. Andrew, tra-ta-ta, tra-ta-ta, tra-ta-ta, then why all this? Obviously just that under the guise of demolished Dzerzhinsky, yet there is something, quickly approved the flag, coat of arms, la-la-la, while the national anthem - no, no, "God Save the Tsar" is not necessary, let's, let Glinka will. Those. I imagine about how it all happened there at the table, as all discussed. And it's all very well and fine, and humanly possible to understand, but we need to have and head. And yet come to that music, here it is necessary to say for sure, music does not disappear, it is not going away. It is impossible to understand why the music of Prince Lvov out there who do not understand anything he has ever written or not?

- And it does not matter, he missed it. As Roger de Lisle wrote only one general thing, well, that - 200 years.

- Yes, but what was going on, why this music .. Here, Bizet: "Carmen" - brilliant opera, and "L'Arlesienne" - well, very so-so, huh? And most of it, well, what else, what sort of musical pieces were some suites, and all. but for life, for the rest of the story for the ages was Bizet as the author of this opera is probably the most brilliant opera of all time opera. And to argue something very difficult.

- Is it worth it to understand this, because it is so: there is great that in some strange way it was created, and the rest - so?

- You are absolutely right. Here also there is another point. When even a layman, even far from the music man, generally uncomprehending music, but all the same Russian people love to sing, and many sing very well, and at the table, and in the company, and go down the street to the accordion, but internally, people feel that good and bad, they also can not be deceived.

- I want to answer the question - yes, of course, we talked a lot about it, I even made a separate hefty transfer very large, where hymns from there, with the march of the Preobrazhensky Regiment, which had been in Russia and there, I then gave in the transmission, so that we, together with you again listen and probably thought. Alexander, let's hear your while, which I did not have to transfer?

- Come on, although there are other, I'll change the text, but I and the text too much. This is a recording of the concert, yes.

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- I ask everyone to sit.

- Well, there, too, I stood up the whole room. No one is forced.

- No, it's really and rises from their seats, and - Lions wonderful music written.

- You know, it's not in me. Let there will be other verses, someone will write better - but the music is still.

- But you have shown what can be done in a modern style.

- Yes, of course, in modern processing, and with the orchestra, and choir - really sounding. Well, nothing here is not primitive, everything here is simple. Here, there is a difference between the primitive and simple.

- Here, between the primitive and simple - I just question from the Internet: "Do you want a producer who wants to sing began in Russia?". Here, you just said that the table in the street, and so on.

- No, I understand perfectly well that it would be desirable that in Russia began to sing! But to me there is little independent. I just have to be ever built theater, and, probably, there will have to ensure that people would like would be nice to listen to the play, to teach people to sing in their own way, that is, I teach them. Those. some school will be at the theater. Now it is just before the hands do not reach. Well, people should try to sing in fact.

- Of course. But there we have, well, for example, there is absolutely wonderful voices, classical voices, there is opera. And there is a failure, then just sing to the people of the street.

- Yes. Yes, you know, I've seen on television any night of amateur song soldier some, I do not know even where soldiers. Some guy came out, opened his mouth, and he has a good voice. And he sang. Well, yes, it is not treated, yes, we should do it, but he was just there, a soldier there, and I'll sing here now, and opens his mouth and sings. Well, yes, it is necessary to teach the course. "Come back tomorrow" - a film, remember? Where on the piano beat artist and sang well? Well, you have to teach, and to learn for himself. You know sometimes, what happens? A man gifted with the voice of watching TV, and think - well, I guess, so I have nothing to do there, there need other, because he sees what is broadcast and what you need today, the producers and, as he thinks, people

-? This made everything "under the plywood" There

- Yes, he sees and thinks - well, to me there is no way. And I know a lot of people who could learn. But they see that it is not claimed. Claimed another Joke - demand, demand a certain strangeness, well, something like that was in zheltokoftny this period, here, in the early 20th century, when the absurd joke, banter, mockery, Burliuk, that's all that ... < br>

- Futurism, scrapping ...

- Futurism Bad, bad, you know. Not Khlebnikov, and there really is to say bungler Burliuk, whose pictures simply ashamed to hang on the wall, but that's why in some museum somewhere saw, lying. Although, maybe they Power of some foreign and would cost very expensive. And broadcast on a wall in the Russian museum in any city - well, stydoba just, you know! Well, to show off, they wanted as they could. It was enough to paint in green, like this one painted in red, went naked walk around the city a few years ago, called it "Bathing the Red me," some kind of artist. Well, draw a beautiful picture of a truly masterful - this can not be that you did not notice.

- Well, if that prohibit such?

- Yes, let them do what he wants, but that's why you find yourself there, when a madman took kakoy-to, painted, went around the city - he needs to give his neck in jail uvoloch that he simply did not frighten children, and journalists rode with cameras that filmed this cretin and shown all over the country!

- Well, red, bright because, well, Alexander, well, vivid, well, what do you do!

- I understand you. Here you and involves, you know, such bright things for you! And, most importantly, the fools. It seems that the media really so baldeyut from his mind, and their representatives, that when they see the fool - it is removed immediately. And then all the people show - see, say what you will, but we - we cool, we jiving on you at all. But in reality, of course, I may be, I swear in vain, as always, but ...

- And what, why I do not quarrel?

- But you know, something here is still there!

- Good. I have here the question immediately butt, I just have to perform before an audience obligation - just ask questions, to be answered.

-! Always

- Here ask who you were singing teacher?

- I had 2 main teacher: Lubov Nyquist and Nina Werbowy. The first 2 courses - Lubov taught at the Institute Gnesin it was, and the remaining 3.5 years led Nina. Both have died, they are generally elderly men were already. Well, in the opera class I had Simon S. Sakharov, the famous conductor, who is almost 25 years working kogda-to the Bolshoi Theater conductor Natalia Spiller too - partner Kozlovsky, People's Artist of the USSR, an amazing singer I had a teacher in the opera class. But on the chamber singing was wonderful completely educator George B. Orentlikher and Maya Leopoldovna Meltzer - all these German names - people very much, from the old such intellectual elite, they were all very old and, so to speak, still remember a time when people have tried to teach and sing correctly. But now I do not think that such teachers can be anywhere on the streets meet, here, The time is, I think, has interrupted this here is the link between the elderly and the elderly, among elderly and middle-aged, and even more so, between the middle and young.

- Well, it is necessary to establish a new connection.

- It is very difficult, so it is very difficult.

- We will turn the phone on, you ask questions, or share some opinions with Alexander Gradsky, remind - 203-19-22. I would like, here, we just listened to the national anthem, I would still listen to the song.

- Come on, that's 1984 song listen, referred to as "human story that could not go on holiday to the Canary Islands" - a favorite song of the Sverdlovsk Regional Party.

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- There is a question from our listener: "What is easier for you to compose, elegantly-hooligan or smart?"

- The easiest way to compose life. Morning got up - and it happens by itself. You have to be in this poem, and a pleasure to be serious, or playing the fool. But when begins composing music, there is a separate process, is very difficult, and writing poems - all the more so in the first place, the answer to this question is very expanded, of course, not so easy to say in a few words, but the music composed much nicer and easier, because I can not compose music and I can not sing, that's purely physiologically can not. For example, I can not write poetry, ie, I am not a poet, who, you know, necessarily need to express their thoughts on paper.

- Here on this site you music?

- Yes, where it is impossible to do so. But at the same time, I wonder, I do not know, to mount films, I would, perhaps, would be to shoot the picture.

- But do can?

- Can do, quite calmly. I've always said that's my 2 mounting the picture, here with my concert, even 3, I have always said - that there is no Alan Parker, so you have to install and to remove himself. And it would be Alan Parker - why would I have been doing it? But since he's not there, in order not to have to explain it then do yourself some kind of fool, how to do it. And, unfortunately, we have to be here so here is scattered or omnivorous, it is in general the same. With pleasure would not do. I would love to write music to any "Godfather" - well, meaning the quality of the picture. But, unfortunately, you have to write the music for the quality of our paintings, there is no alternative.

- This is, after all, you can not refuse it?

- No, I have to write the music, of course. I shall simply. Then I, for example, have an obligation to God and ourselves - we have to finish an opera based on Bulgakov.

- Here ask the way.

- Yes, that's a long time I do it, it is simply transformed into a comic act on my part, when I say all the time - so I've been writing, the 21st year! But it's time to start recording. I think that in the summer I did begin to write. Somehow, some fragments will be made. Just can it be that voice will fade with time at all, become worse, and I do not write down what had to be written, and do not sing, how could sing. If only because of this.

- So it is better in some time not to reach the ideal of inner, not to lose?

- Yes, because it is simply the voice fades. And it is known that age it can simply be lost. I had a few friends who have experienced this. They told me what it is - to lose his voice, a terrible trauma for the singer.

- "The Master and Margarita" - something that's all the time that's not how it turns out, that neither the film that show, in my opinion, the only thing that's ...

- Do you know hands dirty.

-? Yes

- This novel should be done with clean hands. And here I am here or see who was doing, you know? Well, here's Yury Lyubimov once put this performance. There are, however, was from "The Master and Margarita" little more from Lyubimov.

- But still it was a good performance.

- It was a good performance, because there were friendly hands. Well, that's all. It's such an example, it is. Where else did the Poles - well, there really was no such.

- Well, that's a little bit, I reviewed what Wajda makes it ...

- I saw.

- Well, is it ...

-. Something very Polish is

- No, something no. Something a little bit from the 70s and remained there.

- Yes, just bad, you know! Although Wajda - a fine artist, but then nor Wajda, nor Bulgakov, and do not understand that.

- Thank God that you have not watched the Yugoslav film! Do not watched, do you? Alexander Petrovich?

- I think that I would be hanged in the second minute.

- Although there is a very good actor, you'll see - pass by!

- But I hope that no one will just show it. No, it is necessary to clean hands to do this thing and do not try to make money, but how to think. And so I would like so much time and I am suffering with this case.

- There are some cruel comments.

- Let!

- Here, I am now one cruel remark: "It is very strange to hear from Gradsky that the eccentricity of the outer man should be put in jail. We remember that his slighted because he had long hair, and now he repeats , for which he was punished."

- Firstly, I have no one slighted for long hair ever. It is not true. This slighted for the long hair of some alcoholics who went on a drunken scene with guitars, and they were with long hair. They appeared drunk and puke in the adjacent locker rooms, dressing rooms. It then approached the police, gave them on a cap, well, and one that would not have imagined very strongly, carrying them, so to speak, in his own vomit in the office, in the course of their business obstrigli. Hence the idea that that's long hair is simply a protest as such, you know?

- Interesting. For what we polled director forced at school?

- means that you have allowed yourself to cut director. I, for instance, would not have allowed it. So, you know, what a thing, as anyone lucky.

- This is when ... Variable success was.

- I must tell you - as anyone lucky. It is not eccentric. As for the long hair is nothing except the long hair - perhaps you need to cut.

- Well, thank you!

- And as for the artist who painted his ass red, painted nothing but the backside is not, then this is not the eccentricity and show off. And if he knew how to draw cool, he did not need to be done that. Therefore, the hair - it is, first of all, they are clean, have never been painted, has never been pricked pink, so I agree with not a listener. Let's take a second hard question, see what's curse.

- "It's sad that when you play your talent comedian".

- I never played the comedian - I was a buffoon by nature. Do you know what questions - those questions. Here I am a student of this, maybe I would be able to be a comedian. If he gave me about anything serious asked, I would have him seriously and replied. And today I am in a radio studio, where a very funny host, who asks me funny questions. Do I have to talk to him - you know, I'm here for serious thought and decided - so? Ask me something serious! I seriously answer.

- I read: "I want to ask about your creative plans".

- My creative plans, comrade, very global. Now here I am, an hour or two, I will sing on stage fault "Russia" in the creative evening devoted to the 60th anniversary of my great friend composer David Fedorovich Tukhmanov.

- On a piece of paper reads!

- No, guys! Then I plan my way out of the film, where I have the music written by Bogomolov, on "In August of 1944". Here, there will be music, there will be a song - a song or how it happened. Here, such a creative plan. And then, I hope to still work out a few gigs. And think of the summer of the score for "The Master and Margarita" and start recording in the summer, because the summer free studios, orchestras all and studio teams are leaving, so you can freely go to any good recording studio and begin to do something. And then, I still fun gift. This I feel like such a surly, who sings: "Look ..." - and, yes, look, looked around, see, a complete stranger passer! And I love, and I do something funny guy!

- Cheerful guy Alexander Gradsky?

- Yeah, kid!

- There disturbing question: "Tell me where you can buy your old records?"

- On "Top crust". Not to one store, in general, my records do not reach. Usually shops are taking to a premium to sell, this is understandable, but - somewhere there is a dealer, then the dealer gives to "crust" on the Top crust someone buys a pack and sends, say, to a certain store some company. And there they are considerably more expensive. Since all of my fans know things that the "crust" is cheaper, just to get off, and there it all is. Well, it is still expensive plates, because I after the play-backlinks there with me because the cheap copies do not make $ 2, so all my notes are there. When they do not, all of a sudden, well, run out, there is some record, then immediately they appear there.

- Well, that is, there is virtually no break, maybe a zazorchik?

- comes to me and tells me the dealer - Sasha, that those records over, come on, now, to print out. I have to print out, and there they are. But in principle, I have 11 names now, and they are all there.

- what we now hear?

- But I would like to work from 1980 "Satire". Here, you have the same politicized such a program, I often hear political realities.

- Well, of course, especially now!

- Yes. Well, it's a serious thing, called "Yellow House" in the verses Sasha Cherny.

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- I promised that we will include at least one phone call, and we must do it.

- Otherwise what sit on the radio!

- Hello, good afternoon!

- Hello!

Listener - Good afternoon! Alexander, you're absolutely brilliant singer!

- So it does not matter. And if the question is, I do not know.

Listener - No, well, let alone, not argue with that! It is a fact. But you do not ever tried to sing songs by other singers, too brilliant, but foreign? For example, there is Dylan?

- Of course singing. When I was small, playing in the group "Skomorokhs" and we started writing somewhere in 1966, and before that in other bands played mostly western music and I sang and "The Beatles" and "The Rolling Stones" and "Deep Purple" and "Led Zeppelin".

On. Buntman - Dylan And, in general, God ordered!

- And of course Dylan sang. But it was over, when the own music. It turned out it is just more interesting to try that's all.

- Yes, and Dylan, to be honest, was over itself.

-. Well, what to do, so

- This is the life. Let's take another call. Hello, good afternoon!

Listener - Good afternoon!

- Hello!

Listener - For the music thanks, and a serious question about the hymn: the musical public is not satisfied with the song as the national anthem "Broad is my native land"?

- I can answer that question. I do not know about the music community, but it is absolutely brilliant song. And in this my answer says it all - absolutely brilliant song.

On. Buntman - For all the words stress, yes?

- Yes. Because the song is not a hymn. There are great songs. There is a "Coachman, do not drive horses," there is "Steppe and steppe around", there is quite a phenomenal Tukhmanov song "I love you, Russia, Russia, my dear." You see, "Broad is my native land" - a fantastic song, but there is no hymn. Gimnoobraznost - a musical term, you know. Here, "Glory" - a hymn, a hymn Alexandrova - a hymn, a hymn Glinka's "Patriotic Song" - an anthem, "God Save the Tsar", "God Save the Queen" - English hymn, a hymn. Even a fairly frivolous American, former English as though the song that became the anthem of the US then - it is also a hymn. You see, it is a form of music. You can call a hymn anything. For example, there are some hymns some countries, where very frivolous melodies

- Well, overture to the operetta.

- Well, something kind of thing at all ... That's something here, strictly speaking, people have a certain enthusiasm it or not. You know, well, music community here there is nothing, there's just a professional terminology, but in principle, I would, for example, a referendum perpetrate some, if my will was.

-? Still

- Of course. Here, people have chosen, there is 70% of the population, something, well, everything, everything must be put up and shut up. Another thing is that the majority is never right, it is also a known fact.

- That's the trick, yes! In general, it is a specific focus. Well, that Alexander, thank you. Here a million all kinds of congratulations on his birthday.

- Thank you very much to everyone who congratulated. I just can not somehow respond - I just thank all at once.

- you do not see - so covers all together.

- And you there, that the Russian nation is visible in the computer?

- No, I have it on your computer in the form of lines, congratulations.

- Well, thank you to all boys and girls, who have sent congratulations to all those.

-? Well, listen, we will

- 80-year love song lyric girls.

- Let's go! It was Alexander Gradsky.

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